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	<title>Comments on: Why FREE Doesn&#8217;t Work Anymore</title>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.makepeacetotalpackage.com/doug-danna/why-free-doesnt-work-anymore.html#comment-1978</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

I have to challenge you on something you said.

&#34;Let’s take a free ebook… An ebook is just a digital pile of crap. It doesn’t cost anything to reproduce.  You don’t have to get accepted by a publishing house.  You have to print it out or sit in front of your computer screen and read it. Everyone knows an ebook is as worthless as a jar of dirt.&#34;

Looking at the upper right hand column of this page, you see Clayton is giving away free ebooks when you subscribe. Are those  &#34;as worthless as a jar of dirt.&#34; I think not!

Now I would have subscribed without the free ebooks Clayton was offering, but they did make a great bonus gift for subscribing.

We sell some ebooks. Like a Stop Smoking program,  an ebook called Vinegar Magic with over 300 uses of vinegar, and various other ebooks.

Personally, when I read a book such as Gene Schwartz's &#34;Breakthrough Advertising&#34; It really bothers me to mark up the pages. So I would prefer to have it in ebook format so I can print it off and mark up the pages, and then when I am going to re-read it I can print the pages I had previously marked up, and have a clean fresh copy and not be distracted by prior notes.

Also, consider...

Why do you buy books (hard cover), DVD's, Tape sets, etc? For the physical product or for the information contained in it?

Ebooks can contain extremely valuable information too.

That being said, I do find quite a number of ebooks filled with crap, and written by people who don't know what they are talking about, or just repeating the same old same old everyone else is saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>I have to challenge you on something you said.</p>
<p>&quot;Let’s take a free ebook… An ebook is just a digital pile of crap. It doesn’t cost anything to reproduce.  You don’t have to get accepted by a publishing house.  You have to print it out or sit in front of your computer screen and read it. Everyone knows an ebook is as worthless as a jar of dirt.&quot;</p>
<p>Looking at the upper right hand column of this page, you see Clayton is giving away free ebooks when you subscribe. Are those  &quot;as worthless as a jar of dirt.&quot; I think not!</p>
<p>Now I would have subscribed without the free ebooks Clayton was offering, but they did make a great bonus gift for subscribing.</p>
<p>We sell some ebooks. Like a Stop Smoking program,  an ebook called Vinegar Magic with over 300 uses of vinegar, and various other ebooks.</p>
<p>Personally, when I read a book such as Gene Schwartz&#8217;s &quot;Breakthrough Advertising&quot; It really bothers me to mark up the pages. So I would prefer to have it in ebook format so I can print it off and mark up the pages, and then when I am going to re-read it I can print the pages I had previously marked up, and have a clean fresh copy and not be distracted by prior notes.</p>
<p>Also, consider&#8230;</p>
<p>Why do you buy books (hard cover), DVD&#8217;s, Tape sets, etc? For the physical product or for the information contained in it?</p>
<p>Ebooks can contain extremely valuable information too.</p>
<p>That being said, I do find quite a number of ebooks filled with crap, and written by people who don&#8217;t know what they are talking about, or just repeating the same old same old everyone else is saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah aka Creative Fossil</title>
		<link>http://www.makepeacetotalpackage.com/doug-danna/why-free-doesnt-work-anymore.html#comment-1976</link>
		<dc:creator>Leah aka Creative Fossil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been tossing around this:

&lt;strong&gt;'to be FREE or not to be FREE'
&lt;/strong&gt;
dilemma re my eBook for a few days.

Word on CW Street is that I should charge, but I have decided to give it &lt;strong&gt;FREE&lt;/strong&gt;.  So how to avoid the word 'free'?

I was wondering if I played on the word 'priceless' if this would work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been tossing around this:</p>
<p><strong>&#8216;to be FREE or not to be FREE&#8217;<br />
</strong><br />
dilemma re my eBook for a few days.</p>
<p>Word on CW Street is that I should charge, but I have decided to give it <strong>FREE</strong>.  So how to avoid the word &#8216;free&#8217;?</p>
<p>I was wondering if I played on the word &#8216;priceless&#8217; if this would work?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.makepeacetotalpackage.com/doug-danna/why-free-doesnt-work-anymore.html#comment-1914</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the extra advice, Doug... So do you recommend like a full-out advertorial as your lead generation copy?

All the best,

Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the extra advice, Doug&#8230; So do you recommend like a full-out advertorial as your lead generation copy?</p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Jason</p>
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		<title>By: Is FREE worth anything? : Online Marketing With Graham Cox</title>
		<link>http://www.makepeacetotalpackage.com/doug-danna/why-free-doesnt-work-anymore.html#comment-1912</link>
		<dc:creator>Is FREE worth anything? : Online Marketing With Graham Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to my RSS feed. Thanks for visiting! The word &#8220;Free&#8221; has become so overused in webcopy now that it&#8217;s lost much of it&#8217;s ability to convert visitors to subscribers. That&#8217;s the conclusion of David D&#8217;Anna in his latest post over at Clayton Makepeace&#8217;s wonderful copywriting blog. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] If you&#8217;re new here, you may want to subscribe to my RSS feed. Thanks for visiting! The word &#8220;Free&#8221; has become so overused in webcopy now that it&#8217;s lost much of it&#8217;s ability to convert visitors to subscribers. That&#8217;s the conclusion of David D&#8217;Anna in his latest post over at Clayton Makepeace&#8217;s wonderful copywriting blog. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Doug D'Anna</title>
		<link>http://www.makepeacetotalpackage.com/doug-danna/why-free-doesnt-work-anymore.html#comment-1911</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug D'Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for all your great comments.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I'd like to add one more.  As many of your know, the bulk of my business is in the investment newsletter field.  In addition to selling investment newsletters, I also do a ton of lead generation where we give away a FREE report to capture a name. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unlike most lead generation pieces that simply &#34;tease&#34; you about the secret stocks that will build your wealth (that you'll get, of course, in our FREE REPORT), I actually give away a name or an investing idea of value. This runs counter to what many people do today. However, I have found it to be quite effective.  That way the readers actually profits from reading my lead generation piece before they enter their name to receive their FREE report. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is what I mean when I say you need to create a value-based message that:  Counters the skeptics.Exudes leadership and trust. Demonstrates real value just in reading it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The reason I believe that this strategy works is that you have already given the reader a &#34;sneak preview&#34; of what they can expect to receive in their free report. My aim is to get my prospect thinking, &#34;Wow if Mr. Investment Advisor is giving me one of his top stock picks here (on the signup page) with risk, cost, or obligation to do anything, I can only imagine what I'll read in his FREE REPORT.&#34; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is what I mean when I say...&#34;...the pitch you use to get people to sign up for your e-zine must have its own inherent value. They must feel richer from reading it &#8211; whether or not they sign up.&#34;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Signing up then becomes a continuation of the value people received from reading your sign-up page and the beginning of a relationship, not just another FREE offer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My advice:  On your next lead generation piece try giving a way a few solid gold nuggets of real and actionable information.  In other words, add a little bit of &#34;teach&#34; to your &#34;tease&#34; without, of course, giving away the store. You may find, as I have, that &#34;Your FREE report then becomes the icing on the cake, and not the cake.&#34;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All good wishes, Doug &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all your great comments.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to add one more.  As many of your know, the bulk of my business is in the investment newsletter field.  In addition to selling investment newsletters, I also do a ton of lead generation where we give away a FREE report to capture a name. </p>
<p>Unlike most lead generation pieces that simply &quot;tease&quot; you about the secret stocks that will build your wealth (that you&#8217;ll get, of course, in our FREE REPORT), I actually give away a name or an investing idea of value. This runs counter to what many people do today. However, I have found it to be quite effective.  That way the readers actually profits from reading my lead generation piece before they enter their name to receive their FREE report. </p>
<p>This is what I mean when I say you need to create a value-based message that:  Counters the skeptics.Exudes leadership and trust. Demonstrates real value just in reading it.</p>
<p>The reason I believe that this strategy works is that you have already given the reader a &quot;sneak preview&quot; of what they can expect to receive in their free report. My aim is to get my prospect thinking, &quot;Wow if Mr. Investment Advisor is giving me one of his top stock picks here (on the signup page) with risk, cost, or obligation to do anything, I can only imagine what I&#8217;ll read in his FREE REPORT.&quot; </p>
<p>This is what I mean when I say&#8230;&quot;&#8230;the pitch you use to get people to sign up for your e-zine must have its own inherent value. They must feel richer from reading it &ndash; whether or not they sign up.&quot;</p>
<p>Signing up then becomes a continuation of the value people received from reading your sign-up page and the beginning of a relationship, not just another FREE offer.</p>
<p>My advice:  On your next lead generation piece try giving a way a few solid gold nuggets of real and actionable information.  In other words, add a little bit of &quot;teach&quot; to your &quot;tease&quot; without, of course, giving away the store. You may find, as I have, that &quot;Your FREE report then becomes the icing on the cake, and not the cake.&quot;</p>
<p>All good wishes, Doug </p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.makepeacetotalpackage.com/doug-danna/why-free-doesnt-work-anymore.html#comment-1907</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#34;But I disagree that it is dead.&#34;

Come on... You know Doug is just fishing for readers.  =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;But I disagree that it is dead.&quot;</p>
<p>Come on&#8230; You know Doug is just fishing for readers.  =)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah.  I'd say you're on the mark, Doug!

You have to sell the freebie.  Unless you can convince Mr. Prospect that you can solve their big problem in a short amount of time or instantly, then no opt-in for you.

Let's take a free ebook... An ebook is just a digital pile of crap. It doesn't cost anything to reproduce.  You don't have to get accepted by a publishing house.  You have to print it out or sit in front of your computer screen and read it. Everyone knows an ebook is as worthless as a jar of dirt.

But some of us might be able to get opt-ins by giving away a napkin with writing on it if it delivers the right benefit.  

All the best,

Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.  I&#8217;d say you&#8217;re on the mark, Doug!</p>
<p>You have to sell the freebie.  Unless you can convince Mr. Prospect that you can solve their big problem in a short amount of time or instantly, then no opt-in for you.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take a free ebook&#8230; An ebook is just a digital pile of crap. It doesn&#8217;t cost anything to reproduce.  You don&#8217;t have to get accepted by a publishing house.  You have to print it out or sit in front of your computer screen and read it. Everyone knows an ebook is as worthless as a jar of dirt.</p>
<p>But some of us might be able to get opt-ins by giving away a napkin with writing on it if it delivers the right benefit.  </p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Jason</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>     I agree completely that &#34;free&#34; has lost its appeal. Its overuse  has contributed to a good part of the &#34;pitch fatigue&#34; that is so prevalent now. I am bombarded by so many free offers every day that I don't even bother opening them any more. &#34;Free&#34; has become the thing to say when there is nothing better to be said.
     I am more interested in specifics. What will the product do, and how can it help me? Tell me first--get me interested in what you have to offer. THEN let me know it's free, if you like. But please don't use &#34;FREE!&#34; to get my attention first, because I won't read any farther. At this particular moment, I am fed up with &#34;free&#34;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>     I agree completely that &quot;free&quot; has lost its appeal. Its overuse  has contributed to a good part of the &quot;pitch fatigue&quot; that is so prevalent now. I am bombarded by so many free offers every day that I don&#8217;t even bother opening them any more. &quot;Free&quot; has become the thing to say when there is nothing better to be said.<br />
     I am more interested in specifics. What will the product do, and how can it help me? Tell me first&#8211;get me interested in what you have to offer. THEN let me know it&#8217;s free, if you like. But please don&#8217;t use &quot;FREE!&quot; to get my attention first, because I won&#8217;t read any farther. At this particular moment, I am fed up with &quot;free&quot;. </p>
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		<title>By: Increase Sales Coach</title>
		<link>http://www.makepeacetotalpackage.com/doug-danna/why-free-doesnt-work-anymore.html#comment-1904</link>
		<dc:creator>Increase Sales Coach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that is an interesting &#34;theory&#34; and discussion on free not working anymore.  However, this is a &#34;theory&#34; that's easy to test.  So who has or where is the data between a landing page with a &#34;free&#34; offer versus a landing page without a &#34;free&#34; offer.

And I definitely think your target market makes a huge difference as does the source of the traffic and how you drive that source to the landing page.  

Please share your findings when you have the data to support or refute your &#34;theory&#34;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that is an interesting &quot;theory&quot; and discussion on free not working anymore.  However, this is a &quot;theory&quot; that&#8217;s easy to test.  So who has or where is the data between a landing page with a &quot;free&quot; offer versus a landing page without a &quot;free&quot; offer.</p>
<p>And I definitely think your target market makes a huge difference as does the source of the traffic and how you drive that source to the landing page.  </p>
<p>Please share your findings when you have the data to support or refute your &quot;theory&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Ratliff</title>
		<link>http://www.makepeacetotalpackage.com/doug-danna/why-free-doesnt-work-anymore.html#comment-1903</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Ratliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree that &#34;free&#34; is more of a challenge to market, with all the offers and ezines...

But I disagree that it is dead.

The approach needs to change...and differentiation is the key if you choose to use the word &#34;free.&#34;  Your &#34;free&#34; offer needs to be different from those typically done in the marketing world.  Like a U.S.P. , your &#34;F.S.P. (free selling proposition)&#34; needs to  change with the times.

Maybe a free ezine by itself is tough to market, but a &lt;strong&gt;a free copy of a physical book with a subscription to an already &#34;free&#34; ezine included works.

&lt;/strong&gt;It's all about the value proposition, and if you figure that people online like something physical to hold, it can work in certain campaigns.

There are a number of very successful marketers offering this already.  They use the word free, and sometimes actually make the physical product offer totally free...but in most cases just charge a nominal amount for postage etc...

That being said...

I do believe that we are in a trend that will end up where &#34;free&#34; marketing will eventually die.  The different approaches will cease to be effective...and thus result in what Doug printed here...&lt;strong&gt;the death of &#34;free&#34; marketing.

And the birth of low-price point marketing (i.e. investing $7 to buy into some valuable content that suffices as marketing as well.)

Who says that there has to be a dividing line between your content and marketing...why not combine your marketing and content together?

&lt;/strong&gt;Thank you for the excellent conversation starter Doug! 

Joseph Ratliff
Author of The Profitable Business Edge 2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree that &quot;free&quot; is more of a challenge to market, with all the offers and ezines&#8230;</p>
<p>But I disagree that it is dead.</p>
<p>The approach needs to change&#8230;and differentiation is the key if you choose to use the word &quot;free.&quot;  Your &quot;free&quot; offer needs to be different from those typically done in the marketing world.  Like a U.S.P. , your &quot;F.S.P. (free selling proposition)&quot; needs to  change with the times.</p>
<p>Maybe a free ezine by itself is tough to market, but a <strong>a free copy of a physical book with a subscription to an already &quot;free&quot; ezine included works.</p>
<p></strong>It&#8217;s all about the value proposition, and if you figure that people online like something physical to hold, it can work in certain campaigns.</p>
<p>There are a number of very successful marketers offering this already.  They use the word free, and sometimes actually make the physical product offer totally free&#8230;but in most cases just charge a nominal amount for postage etc&#8230;</p>
<p>That being said&#8230;</p>
<p>I do believe that we are in a trend that will end up where &quot;free&quot; marketing will eventually die.  The different approaches will cease to be effective&#8230;and thus result in what Doug printed here&#8230;<strong>the death of &quot;free&quot; marketing.</p>
<p>And the birth of low-price point marketing (i.e. investing $7 to buy into some valuable content that suffices as marketing as well.)</p>
<p>Who says that there has to be a dividing line between your content and marketing&#8230;why not combine your marketing and content together?</p>
<p></strong>Thank you for the excellent conversation starter Doug! </p>
<p>Joseph Ratliff<br />
Author of The Profitable Business Edge 2</p>
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